Hunting vote delayed after SNP U-turn

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My Editor at Ace News Services <Click) picked this up, I had JUST blogged http://shaunynews.com/2015/07/14/fox-hunting-nicola-warns-cameron-to-accept-the-westminster-snp-vote/ <Click) And the Tories have stopped the vote for the day while they TRY and get some deal done with the SNP. I am hoping and probably know the SNP will stick to their guns on this one. Well played Nicola!

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A vote on relaxing the Hunting Act on Wednesday has been postponed after the SNP said it would oppose the changes.

The party had previously said fox hunting was the kind of issue it was unlikely to vote on.

But its change of heart meant the plans, which apply to England and Wales only, would be unlikely to get through the House of Commons.

Changes restricting Scottish MPs’ voting rights on non-Scottish issues could now be introduced first.

BBC assistant political editor Norman Smith said the change to voting rights could “change everything” and “tip the balance back in favour of David Cameron and changing the rules on fox hunting”.

The government plans to change Commons rules to allow English, or English and Welsh, MPs a “decisive say” on legislation only applying there.

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Fox Hunting – Nicola warns Cameron to accept the Westminster SNP vote

A well used image to show the contempt Nicola holds over David

A well used image to show the contempt Nicola holds over David

Touche Nicola Sturgeon here. Where Cameron (Westminster ancient ethos) want to keep votes on English only affairs to English Politicians is being challenged by the SNP, Nicola said yesterday “We will be the ones to stop your Fox hunting law” See this form of voting and scuppering the Tory plans is a sure fire way to get certain laws passed and more via an imbalanced Smith Commission for Holyrood. I said many times now we must allow a process to just happen. Where Austerity hurts us we hurt them back! Tory back bench voters are likely to vote no on this law so it looks like the SNP will for sure make this law fail when the vote happens, WE HAVE THIS POWER NOW! Keep it up SNP in London! We will get our day. This is why we celebrated voting 56 SNP Members to Westminster, we can and will change this game. Watch this space, Nicola ain’t playing!

Nicola Sturgeon celebrates the May 7th wipe-out

Nicola Sturgeon celebrates the May 7th wipe-out

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Nicola Sturgeon has warned David Cameron that he must respect the mandate of Scottish MPs at Westminster as the SNP threatened to scupper Government plans to relax the ban on fox hunting in England and Wales.

The Scottish First Minister confirmed that SNP MPs would break with their normal practice of not voting on England-only matters to oppose the proposed change to the law on hunting in tomorrow’s Commons vote. And she warned that her party would be prepared to vote on other issues where Scotland is not directly affected in the months ahead. Ms Sturgeon directly linked the move to the Government’s plans for “English votes for English laws”, known as Evel, which would give English MPs a veto over England-only legislation at Westminster.

The decision of the SNP to vote against the legal change – which would actually bring the law on hunting in England and Wales into line with the law1436855203-436 Scotland – means it is almost certain to be defeated. With a number of anti-hunting Conservative MPs planning to vote with Labour and the SNP in the Commons free vote, Ms Sturgeon said it was a reminder to Mr Cameron just how slender his Commons majority was. “Since the election David Cameron’s Government has shown very little respect to the mandate Scottish MPs have. On the Scotland Bill reasonable amendments backed by the overwhelming majority of Scottish MPs have been voted down,” she told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme.

“The English votes for English laws proposals brought forward go beyond any reasonable proposition and look to make Scottish MPs effectively second-class citizens in the House of Commons. “So if there is an opportunity, as there appears to be here, and on an issue where David Cameron appears to be out of touch with majority English opinion as well, to actually remind the Government of how slender their majority is, that is an opportunity we will take.”

The SNP decision drew an angry response from Conservative MPs and is likely to lead to demands for ministers to press on with English votes for English laws as more power was devolved to the Scottish Parliament in the wake of last year’s referendum vote.

Senior backbencher Tory Sir Peter Bottomley said: “The Scottish National Party risk making themselves look foolish, unprincipled and unwise by voting against making English law similar to Scottish law. “This action is naive – it makes them look silly and is perhaps the first major mis-step by Nicola Sturgeon.”

THIS ISN'T ANGER, IT'S SCOTTISH DETERMINATION

THIS ISN’T ANGER, IT’S SCOTTISH DETERMINATION

A Conservative source said: “Hunting is a devolved issue. The SNP’s decision to vote on a draft law that does not affect Scotland at all shows exactly why Conservatives committed in our manifesto to ensure laws that only affect England can only be passed with the consent of English MPs.” The bitter political row erupted as animal welfare activists prepared to stage a rally against the proposals to amend the Hunting Act which would bring England and Wales into line with Scotland on using dogs to flush out foxes to be shot.

Traditional fox hunting with dogs is illegal across Britain, but in England and Wales just two dogs can be used to flush out a fox so that a farmer or landowner can shoot it, while in Scotland an unlimited number of dogs can be used. High-profile animal welfare activists including Queen guitarist Brian May will take part in a rally outside Parliament by the “Team Fox” coalition of animal welfare groups, including Animal Defenders International, urging MPs to keep the ban intact.

Celebrities including Ricky Gervais, Morrissey, Sadie Frost and Stella McCartney have joined the campaign against the proposed change, which has prompted accusations that the Government is trying to sneak fox hunting in through the back door, knowing it would not win a free vote to repeal the Hunting Act in Parliament.

Actors Colin Baker and Julia McKenzie, comedian Alexei Sayle, TV presenters Chris Packham and Victoria Stilwell, naturalist Dame Jane Goodall and former Conservative MP Ann Widdecombe are among more than 20 high-profile people who have signed a letter to MPs. The letter warns that the Government is attempting to “weaken the Hunting Act though the back door, knowing full well that a free vote would maintain this effective, compassionate law”. But hunting supporters are backing the move, saying traditional hunting would remain illegal and it would make it easier to manage fox populations.

Tory former defence secretary Liam Fox accused Ms Sturgeon of hypocrisy, saying she had previously made clear that hunting was the sort of devolved issue which SNP MPs should not vote on “What we have seen is really a pretty toxic mixture of opportunism and hypocrisy coming from the SNP,” he told the Today programme. “It is particularly galling because the Government has been very careful and Parliament has been very careful to try and protect the Union by moving slowly and thoughtfully and constructively in terms of English votes on English laws. “It seems while we are trying to be reasonable to the SNP they are sticking two fingers up at us.”

For Labour, shadow Scottish secretary Ian Murray said that Mr Cameron was paying the price for his failure to build a political consensus over his proposed voting reforms at Westminster. “The issue here is with regards to how the Prime Minister has cack-handedly gone around this particular issue and risked the Union. He has put together on the back of a cigarette packet English votes for English laws,” he told the Today programme

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http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/politics/snp_threaten_to_block_conservative_bid_to_relax_fox_hunting_laws_1_4151607

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-3160223/Rally-fox-hunt-law-change-bid.html

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/08/snp-to-demand-new-powers-for-scottish-parliament-after-election-landslide

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A song that somehow transgresses us all, for peace but some dislike. WHY?

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On my sidebar you will see most days I add new songs, just for my own self happiness I guess, once I shared and blogged “Imagine” By John Lennon. A few people said “NO, TAKE THAT SONG DOWN, WHY DON’T WE WANT HEAVEN” And other ridiculous statements, some more in hate than anything else. Lets make it clear John was a very spiritual religious man, this song was written for PEACE. “IMAGINE” In order to have a Utopian Human World where there are no wars, greed, poor, consumerism for the sake of consuming. The message was simple “Join us in Peace”

I will quote:

America’s best-known evangelists—Pat Robertson, Billy Graham, Jim Bakker, and Oral Roberts. In 1972 he had written a desperate letter to Roberts confessing his dependence on drugs and his fear of facing up to “the problems of life.” He expressed regret that he had said that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus and enclosed a gift for the Oral Roberts University. After quoting the line “money can’t buy me love” from “Can’t Buy Me Love” he said, “It’s true. The point is this, I want happiness. I don’t want to keep on with drugs. Paul told me once, ‘You made fun of me for taking drugs, but you will regret it in the end.’ Explain to me what Christianity can do for me. Is it phoney? Can He love me? I want out of hell.” John replied simply “Paul, we are in entertainment and in the World’s eye, I believe in MY GOD” 

Now take that into context, even if it is off the mark or not fully true, does it matter? The song was trying to say what? Say I write about now. Why can’t we just have peace, why does War make money, why are Wars made to create money for the rich. Do your research, I will be proven correct. Google “The Rothschilds and Napoleon Bonaparte” way back in 1815 when the Rothschild family falsely claimed Napoleon defeated Wellington shattering the stock markets in Britain that dynasty to still work today, they bought the shares for pennies in the pound on a lie! Today this is still the case, please do research

The Rothschild Conspiracy
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4311

All aside this song is a song that had a different meaning, it did not intend to say “No heaven” in the way some closed minded people who TO THIS DAY would happily see War with Iran and Palestine controlled for all of time because of ancient text. I don’t, sorry I fail to understand the mindset of a person who would pull us ALL into War because of Religious scripture. When people say “Most Wars are over Religion” There is a stern argument FOR that saying in some context. I will ALWAYS say I stand in solidarity with Palestine, it is VERY EASY for a culture who does not understand the fear of War, as a kid me, my partner and all our friends were at the peril of a War between London and Ireland, we were scared as bombs were going off and London was killing anyone that looked Irish. http://shaunynews.com/2015/03/25/why-i-stand-in-solidarity-with-palestine/ I don’t hate Israel because I know within Israel there are huge numbers AGAINST what Israel do to Palestine, I proved it. http://shaunynews.com/2015/03/09/thousands-of-israelis-rally-against-netanyahu-for-his-genocide-in-palestine/ In Israel there were 10’s of Thousands demonstrating AGAINST their own government for what they do to Palestine, but that proof is STILL not enough for the likes of Joan Rivers away over the pond 10,000 miles away, safe and happy to see my part of the World and more than American’s 5% of Humanity suffer at the hands of a brainwashed generation of people who claim “Palestine can simply walk into Jordan ” Now this was 2,000 years ago, what about today? The World WILL 100000% free Palestine by recognizing her. There will be no War, Palestine will, like my County Scotland who are controlled by London, will soon walk into the a new brave World where there is no oppression. The World is changing and sadly those who live by so called words spoken by a God who stopped talking to us, but did give a man a tablet with 10 rules and tell 4 men the words for a book, use logic, why did God stop speaking to Humans? I rest my case. I don’t hate, if you want to, go right ahead, you will be alone as I don’t hate back, because the World is waking up, slowly, but this old book is becoming old in another sense and many people’s beliefs are about to be shattered in a way they won’t like, same as mine were as a kid scared to walk my high street in-case I was killed by a bomb or a soldier. The same way today London rules Scotland with 1 Politician voted into my land here in Scotland. I am sorry, Arabs and Jews DON’T WANT TO HATE. Look below, see the proof, understand your book is outdated and probably incorrect. I aim to offend nobody, I only aim to open closed minds. Your take Humans. Scottish and English people do not hate each other, we are in Solidarity, together. Think, please. It’s Government control as they fear we will rob them, rob them our own money back.

I will leave you with this conundrum. While many say “Palestinians are savages and ALL are Hamas and evil” Yet “They had a Democratic vote to get Hamas to control” That does NOT add up. So what is the story? We cant in one had condemn an entire people to terrorists then say they were democratic in any way. Know the % of Hamas in Israel is the same TINY % of IRA members that were in Ireland. Knowledge of 2015 will serve you best rather than an old book written by MAN. How can it be the word of God if man wrote it? There were votes and arguments of what was to  go into the Bible, this is why Christianity has branched off into about 2,000 different versions of itself. WAKE UP! APPLY LOGICAL THINKING GUYS

Israel: Tens of Thousands Rally In Tel Aviv Demanding Netanyahu Be Ousted
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BARBARIC ANIMALS. NOT ONE PERSON WHO DOESN'T SEE THIS IS SICK IS EVIL, END OFF!

BARBARIC ANIMALS. NOT ONE PERSON WHO DOESN’T SEE THIS IS SICK IS EVIL, END OFF!

WHEN I TALK TO FRIENDS THEY CAN’T IN THEIR MINDS GO TO THIS IMAGE. AMERICAN I LOVE YOU AS A PEOPLE BUT COME ON!! HOW CAN’T THIS BE POSSIBLE?

WHEN I TALK TO FRIENDS THEY CAN’T IN THEIR MINDS GO TO THIS IMAGE. AMERICAN I LOVE YOU AS A PEOPLE BUT COME ON!! HOW CAN’T THIS BE POSSIBLE?

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Bomb them anyway……

ISRAEL USE HUMAN SHIELDS

ISRAEL USE HUMAN SHIELDS

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Indian and Pakistan Cricketers support Israel

Indian and Pakistan Cricketers support Israel

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THE WORLD HAS SPOKEN

THE WORLD HAS SPOKEN

PICK ONE, WHERE WILL YOUR SOUL GO?

PICK ONE, WHERE WILL YOUR SOUL GO?

BACK PALESTINE

BACK PALESTINE

USA BACK PALESTINE

USA BACK PALESTINE

THE USA BACK PALESTINE IN MANY CASES

THE USA BACK PALESTINE IN MANY CASES

THE WORLD BACKS PALESTINE

THE WORLD BACKS PALESTINE

THE WORLD BACKS PALESTINE

THE WORLD BACKS PALESTINE

THE WORLD BACKS PALESTINE

THE WORLD BACKS PALESTINE

THE WORLD BACKS PALESTINE

THE WORLD BACKS PALESTINE………….

NOW ISRAELIS HAVE SPOKEN, LOUD AND CLEAR

…………NOW ISRAELIS HAVE SPOKEN, LOUD AND CLEAR

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I don’t hate. Hate me you are ignored, I will speak and follow progress, not 2,000 years ago. Can you “Imagine” If not, go back to sleep!

MORE LOVE, LESS HATE………………..

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Thousands back campaign for the North of England to join Scotland

 

MORE than 17,000, so far are supporting a campaign that calls for the north of England to join Scotland

MORE than 17,000, so far are supporting a campaign that calls for the north of England to join Scotland

When Scotland voted 55% against 45% for No in last years Scottish Referendum many said Scotland had changed the political landscape of Britain forever. Many in England after watching the leaders debates wanted to know if they could vote for SNP/Nicola. Well well! Now we have the North of Britain wanting to leave the UK to team up with Scotland. This will not be welcome news for David Cameron, Tories, Elite and Propaganda media alike. See Scotland got the blame for trying to ‘Break up the Union’ Now we have English people wanting to do the same thing, I am wondering how long it will take for the above to blame Scotland and the SNP for Northern England’s people wanting to leave the UK. BIG CHANGE is coming, there is no doubt. London works for itself at an Elite level, everything I have said for 10 years is now coming to pass. This is just the start people, Wales will want some next, the will of the people have spoken loudly twice now in Scotland, now others in the UK are standing up. Watch this space, I promise you it is about to get serious

~~~~Via: http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/thousands-back-campaign-for-the-north-of-england-to-join-scotland.126081689~~~~

Protesters aim to lobby Westminster over the move saying that northern English “feel far greater affinity with their Scottish counterparts such as Glasgow and Edinburgh than with the ideologies of the London-centric south”

Signatures to the petition demands secession from the UK. It suggests the boundaries of Britain be realigned so that the border runs between the River Dee and the mouth of The Humber. It would mean that cities such as Liverpool, Newcastle, Sheffield, Leeds and Manchester would be part of Scotland.

The campaigners who have launched the move online with the slogan #TakeUsWithYouScotland says: “The deliberations in Westminster are becoming increasingly irrelevant to the north of England. “The needs and challenges of the north cannot be understood by the endless parade of old Etonians lining the front benches of the House of Commons. The north of England should join the newly independent Scotland and regain control over its own destiny.”

The petition first drawn up during the Scottish independence referendum has gained a new lease of life since the General Election with 5000 signing up in the past four days. George Osborne, the chancellor of the exchequer is the only constituency MP from the north of England who has a seat in the new cabinet.

The petition argues that cities such as Manchester (pictured above) have much more in common with Glasgow and Edinburgh than those in the south of England

The petition argues that cities such as Manchester (pictured above) have much more in common with Glasgow and Edinburgh than those in the south of England

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/u/thousands-back-campaign-for-the-north-of-england-to-join-scotland.1431608741

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/merseysiders-among-thousands-sign-petition-9251170

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/the-northerner/2015/may/14/thousands-sign-petition-calling-for-north-of-england-to-be-part-of-scotland

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England still doesn’t get what the election in Scotland was really about

Leader of the SNP Nicola Sturgeon listens to the Glasgow declarations.

Leader of the SNP Nicola Sturgeon listens to the Glasgow declarations.

I had the total pleasure of speaking to the writer of this article, a Channel 4 War Correspondent Alex Thompson a while back during a big Scottish news story. He is a really decent guy and I love to watch him on TV and read his blog for Channel 4. This is a man who has seen the darkest elements of our species has been vocal and honest in his writing from down south. For me he is like any friend I have in England, I wanted better for him also, Labour/SNP to really change the mentality of what the Tory Eton Boys do and stand for. I wrote this 5 years ago now “Groomed for Power” and re-did it for this Election. We must understand what the Tory’s stand for. Many will take the money and live in denial of suffering, with the SNP we have a party who will work for the people to improve the people and help the people. Article below by Alex Thompson. Link is below in blue to his site

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Alex Thomson

A Jockalypse Now – that’s the Scottish National Party buzz-phrase as they and their legions bask in the afterglow of turning Scotland yellow from the glens to Glasgow and back.

Turning a racial slur into a badge of victory, jock being a derogatory term for Scot, suddenly it’s all Francis Ford Coppola as Nicola Sturgeon’s 56 members of parliament head south to break the Westminster mindset – A Jockalypse Now. That’s the confidence, cachet downright choppiness that winning 56 out of 59 seats in a country gets you.

But …

One big problem looms for the SNP. They represent the highlands, islands, urban housing projects, city centres – they represent everywhere let’s face it.

And …

They face a massive language barrier. You see Westminster, London and England generally have real issues when it comes to speaking their language and understanding them. The British Establishment in the shape of David Cameron’s Conservative party seems to have profound difficulties here.

A young boy joins in on the SNP's victory.

A young boy joins in on the SNP’s victory

It’s not that the English Establishment is tone deaf to the SNP. They really don’t get the lingo at all. For example, throughout this campaign, the SNP has plainly been talking about one thing and the English Establishment has been talking back at them about something entirely different . Sturgeon’s number one campaign manifesto issue has been to fight against cuts to welfare and social spending imposed by Cameron’s Conservative government over the past five years. She has said about 123 gazillion times:

“Even if we win every single seat in Scotland, which we won’t, that would not be a mandate to have another referendum on independence.”

Yet Conservative and Labour leaders alike have popped up all the way through the election campaign to warn darkly of the threat to the Union and even the (non-existent) British constitution should the SNP win the vote. Somehow this major comprehension-block has to be climbed over if the yellow SNP of Scotland and the blue Conservatives of England are to do business going forward. What the English Establishment doesn’t get is that the SNP are about a broad culture and political zeitgeist – the Establishment too often see them simply, narrowly and quite wrongly as a campaign for independence pure and simple.

Mhairi Black of the SNP, the youngest MP since the 1600s.

Mhairi Black of the SNP, the youngest MP since the 1600s.

If the latter were true you would not see a 20-year-old student with upcoming exams evicting a sitting MP who was the Labour Shadow Foreign Secretary. If it were true, how come it took the Labour Party in Scotland generations to see off the Tories here – the SNP have annihilated Labour here in five months. Why? Because Scotland is witnessing a wholesale mass rebellion against austerity policies but moreover against the entire Blair-Brown New Labour project. Labour is seen as the party, which sold people out to Tory welfare cuts. So it is about way more than the dream of independence. Alarmingly there are few signs yet that political leaders will learn or are even interested in learning what these 56 new MPs are about.

Nicola Sturgeon with her 56 new SNP MPs in Queensferry, Scotland
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Take election night. You have the defeated Labour leader Ed Miliband saying his party has been obliterated in Scotland “by a surge of nationalism” Moments later up pops the Conservative MP and London Mayor Boris Johnson saying they must talk to the SNP about “federalism” which would be “simple” You what? Federalism? I don’t think I even heard this word in six weeks on the campaign across Scotland from any party campaigning. The fact is that is was anti-austerity; anti austerity cuts; anti-Trident nuclear missile system and so on. It was a manifesto – in fact – that led to the SNP conquering Scotland .

So the massive tectonic plates now grind up against each other as the third biggest still-UK political party flexes its new muscle. The inability of the English plate to understand what has happened in Scotland suggests the tectonics could create an earthquake.

True Cameron may soon be indicating more real powers for Scotland including moves down the road towards letting Scots have full economic control over their own affairs. There is conjecture – not even proper talking on this at this still-early stage. And this is where the hope lies, that a historic mandate can be fulfilled north of the border. Cameron will have to move genuinely and quickly on this.

The central principle of the SNP’s campaign has been that they can make Scotland’s voice heard more effectively in London than the Labour Party has been able to do for years. It was manifestly not about gaining enough MPs to somehow force another independence referendum out of Westminster. The only times the SNP leadership talked about referendum or nationalism or indeed independence were the occasions when the media repeatedly questioned them on it.

Indeed the hallmark of this election was the SNP endlessly being asked by journalists – this one included – about issues they were not campaigning on! Why? Because London news editors could not get themselves beyond the independence agenda any more than other slightly paranoid areas of London.

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Because the clear danger is that if the English Establishment simply reverts to paranoia seeing the SNP as nothing less than a threat to the Union of the UK that they cherish so much and nothing more, that is what will bring about that very earthquake they fear so much. So the paranoia must go in England. The psychology that led the ever-brittle Daily Mailnewspaper to dub Sturgeon “The Most Dangerous Woman In Britain” must not infect English political bosses any more if they really care about their Union. Cameron’s new mandate should lead him get to know the SNP and understand their language in his own interests, if nobody else’s.

As the Mafia say – keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

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